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 Around the World in 80 Days (2004)
IMDB rating: 5.60
Plot: Based on the classic novel by Jules Verne, Around the World in 80 Days (2003) stars Jackie Chan as Passepartout. As an adventurer, Passepartout ends up accompanying time-obsessed English gentleman, Phileas Fogg (played by Steve Coogan) on a daring mission to journey around the world. Fogg has wagered with members of his London club that he can traverse the world in 80 days. Along the way, they encounter many interesting 19th Century figures and have many exciting and suspenseful situations in their voyage around the world.
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Directors: Coraci Frank
Actors: Chan Jackie,Coogan Steve,Fyfe Robert,Broadbent Jim,McNeice Ian,Ryall David,Hammond Roger,Godley Adam,Cooper Howard,Hinchcliffe Daniel,Teufel Wolfram,Strauss Tom,West Kit,Bremner Ewen,Action,Adventure,Comedy,Family,Romance,
a muslim and an athiest on a plane. god exist?
(copy pasted) i will be glad to answer any question or to counter any counter. Religion and the Scientist
…seated side by side, two gentlemen from two different world…
And there they were, on a flight from Cape Town to Durban, seated side by side, two gentlemen from two different worlds…….After the formalities were covered, the conversation continued……..
Bob: I don’t believe in God, but rather in science and technology, something tangible you see, but if you can prove to me scientifically that God does exist then I would consider such a thought.
Yunus: Okay, you being interested in technology, please answer this question……with regard to an advanced machine or electronic device, who would be the one to know the most about its mechanism or functioning?
Bob: Well, perhaps the person who has invented or manufactured such a machine.
Yunus: Can we agree that it is the maker or creator of the product who would know every-thing there is to know about the product.
Bob: I don’t see why not, it sounds reasonable.
Yunus: Being knowledgeable in these matters, the next question I’d like to ask you is, Just how did the world or the universe come into existence?
Bob: According to recent scientific research, the whole universe was one gigantic mass, which scientists call the primary Nebula, they tell us that it was a cosmic explosion or a secondary explosion that gave rise to the sun, the stars, the planets and even the Earth we live on.
Yunus: Is this what you believe?
Bob: Yes of course, these are established facts based on scientific proofs. In fact, this idea was realised in 1973 and termed the ‘BIG BANG’ theory.
Yunus: I see, well I have a surprise for you….In the Holy Quraan, chapter 21, verse 30 says. "Do the disbelievers not see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then I split them apart". Here we can see that the Holy Quraan is speaking about this ‘BIG BANG’ theory and let me tell you that the Holy Quraan was revealed over 1400 years ago.
Bob: I have heard about the Quraan, but can you refresh my memory.
Yunus: Sure, the Muslim believes the Quraan to be the word of God, pure and unadulterated which was revealed verbally to the Prophet _____ of Islam, Mohammed, Peace be upon him, through the agency of the Angel Gabriel. The Holy Quraan was completed over a period of 23 years, that is over the prophetic life of the Prophet _____________ of Islam.
Bob: Are you sure that the Quraan is over 14 centuries old and secondly, that the Quraan has not been changed.
Yunus: Absolutely, it is a historical fact that the Holy Quraan was completed in the seventh century and has remained unchanged ever since. Historians, whether friends or foes to Islam, testify to this.
Bob: Well then, perhaps it’s a guess.
Yunus:…..What does science say about the shape of the Earth ?
Bob: Previously, Man thought that the Earth was flat, until Sir Frances Drake in 1607 finally proved it to be spherical. Today, the term Geoid is used to describe this spherical shape.
Yunus: Amazingly the Holy Quraan in chapter 31, verse 29 says, "Have you not seen how God merges the night into the day and merges the day into the night." The use of the word merges emphasizes a slow gradual change, and this is not possible if the earth is flat.
Bob: Go on.
Yunus: Further in chapter 39, verse 5, it says, "He coils the night upon the day and he coils the day upon the night." The word used in the original arabic text is "Kaw’wara" which means coils or winds, the significance of this verb is that you usually coil something around a rather spherical object. You say that this fact was discovered recently, well relatively recently, who could have mentioned this in the Holy Quraan over 1400 years ago ?
Bob: I’m not convinced.
Yunus: Fine, tell me where the light of the Moon comes from?
Bob: Centuries ago people thought that the Moon was a miniature version of the Sun and that both emitted their own light, but recently studies confirmed that the Moon reflected the Sun’s light.
Yunus: The Holy Quraan in chapter 25, verse 61 mentions, "Blessed is the one who placed the constellations in the Heaven and placed therein a lamp and a Moon reflecting light." Here the Sun is referred to as a lamp for it has its own illumination, while the Moon is said to have reflected light or borrowed light, meaning not its own.
Bob: Its probably conjecture…guesswork.
Yunus: For the sake of a discussion I won’t argue. Anyway, let us proceed……. When I was in school in the 80’s, my teacher told me that the Sun remains stationary whilst the planets although rotating around their axes do revolve around the Sun as well.
Bob: Is that what your Quraan says, that the Sun is stationary….Ha!
Yunus: No, the Holy Quraan does not say this. Thi
You Got to be out of your fuking mind, if you think I’m going to read the whole pile of steamy horses.h.i.t.
Thank God I'm Atheist | Dec 24, 2009
Vague Koran is vague
Tristan K | Dec 23, 2009
A bit lame , the Atheist gives up without arguing to most of the discussed topics and I am saying this even while I am a Muslim myself .
Architect | Dec 23, 2009
If you make a thousand predictions, some of them will probably be right.
Loki | Dec 23, 2009
Why do religious believers think that fictional accounts prove anything?
Here’s a hint : no actual scientist would have said most of those things.
1 - That is a completely innacurate description of the Big Bang theory, which predated 1973 by quite a number of years.
1a - The "joined together/split apart" statement doesn’t even vaguely resemble the Big Bang.
A scientist who knew anything about the Big Bang would know that.
2 - The Greeks (and likely others) knew the earth was a globe 2500 years ago. A scientist who knew anything about the subject would know that.
2a - Gradual change between day and night has always been obvious to anyone who isn’t blind. And has nothing relevant to do with the shape of the earth. Instead, it has to do with the atmosphere. Lack of atmosphere makes an abrupt change from light to dark on the moon. Which is also round.
3 - Confirmation that the moon reflects the sun is hardly "recent." It’s part of the proof the Greeks used to prove the earth was round. Again, a scientist who knew anything would know this.
3a - Since this has been known for a long time, it is irrelevant that your book mentions it.
It’s interesting that Yunus never mentions that the Quran has the sun setting in a mud puddle. I wonder why that is?
Please try again.
Or not.
skeptik | Dec 23, 2009
I’m just continuing the last sentence. the Quran doesn’t say that the Sun is stationary, it says: "Al shams wal qamaro kollon yajri li ajalin mosamma"
meaning:
"The sun and the moon, all go to a known (by God) destination".
G. #2 | Dec 23, 2009
Well i think Bob should convert to Islam because frankly he seems to be an idiot
Urrubirrik | Dec 23, 2009
1 - Nether the Quran or the bible make any sense in a technical or scientific sense it is all prose and poetical hogwash .
2 - Your premises as presented are idiotic to say the least and pathetic to say in the most accurate possiable fashion .
3 -http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/ lizardofahaz_2008/circlarreasoning-1.jpg
4 -http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm42/ lizardofahaz_2008/ist2_2810984_middle_fi nger.jpg
Eva Luten >3 | Dec 23, 2009
You know, the way the question is phrased, it sounds a lot like ‘Believe in God, or I will totally blow this mother up.’
Why they gotta be on a plane?
Miss Sweet | Dec 23, 2009
plz dont answer unless u really read the quran otherwise dont hate partisipate!!!
fikri | Dec 23, 2009